Mr. Deltoid
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I'm not going to break the rules here because I love meso but if I had a chance to meet you sir it would be art like the Mona Lisa or Cistine Chappell or the blood eagal.
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Isis/Muslim/terrorist rant
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Thesecretman
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Just bring it. Years from now we Muslims will be able to look back and repeat caesar's refrain: "came, saw, conqueured."
There is probably no country with more at stake than Israel when it comes to the middle east and to that end the US would need a damn brain transplant if they abandoned their alliance with Israel.
Why, bc in spite of what many are told or have been coerced into believing ISRAEL is THE country that has stabilized the MIDDLE EAST to ensure we can fill our vehicles with CHEAP gas. Is it about GAS?
Your damn right it is and we should all face that fact bc the WORLDS economy is dependent upon it, and that's how it will remain until we all "evolve" functional wings
A brief lesson in history and I mean brief. Want to know how many more Sadam Husseins there are in the Middle East just look at isis! So the next time "you" fill up your tank just remember folks what that insular tyrant did IN ONE DAY to KAWAIT!
Now seriously folk how much easier would it be for these crazed lunatics to launch, you name it, using a "free Palestinian" nation throughout the middle east as a terrorist base of operations. Think I'm exaggerating, I only wish that was the case, but do tell me what ANY arab nation has done to control nut cases like isis? That's the ticket, let's give them a "nation", COL
GOD FORBID!
Yes...That was very brief Jim. Now you've opened up a whole other avenue for "discussion". Thanks
You're getting close to killing some kaffirs yourself, aren't you. Who's your target going to be? Cartoonists? Jews? British children? Let the hate flow through you, boy. Tell us who it's going to be.
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What you say is probably true for Europe but I would amend Caeser's "veni, vedi, vici" quote slightly. "Veni, vidi, perii" will be the most likely scenario.
Thesecretman
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No I'm not getting close to killing anyone, neither would I engage in such behaviour. I have nothing against kafirs or Jews.
However you are right about the hate flowing through my veins. American policies and shenanigans (namely abu ghraib, gitmo, torture programme) have instilled a deep rooted and unremitting hatred for your nation. Prior to the war on terror I was neutral to USA. I am your product. I wish nothing but ill will to your country.
It's telling that your outrage is only directed at the US, but when it comes to the atrocities committed by Muslims, you're silent. Why isn't your outrage directed at Muslims who burned a man alive? Where is your outrage over Muslims who are selling Yazidi women and children into sexual slavery? Where is your outrage over Boko Haram for kidnapping hundreds of Christian school girls and selling them into sexual slavery? Or the Muslims beheading people with a dull knife? Or stoning adulterers? Or mutilating the genitals of little girls? Where is you outrage over the Muslims who murdered the cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo for doing nothing more than drawing a picture. Or the Muslim who murdered Jews at a French deli for no other reason than they were Jews.
Why don't you wish ill will on those Muslims? Why are you not a product of those Muslims? Why don't you wish ill will on the Islamic countries that are killing innocent civilians. All you see is the US.
You are a tribalist. You cannot see the transgressions of your tribe, transgressions that are infinitely worse than anything done by the US. You provide evidence that supports the views of those in the West who say Muslims have no place here; that you can't be integrated into Western society; that you should be deported.
Is that the best you can do? Allegations started by Electronic Intifada don't carry much weight - just like Wikipedia. More crap.
^^^ So he "doesn't care" if he's arrested oh BULLSHIT! Your just another chicken shit launching verbal jabs at a democracy while living in one, lol!
Dude start the video tape, strap on that bomb and DETONATE immediately, bc only then will you be able to convince your depressed heathen brethren living under "islamic" law, your a legit martyr in his quest for 71 virgins cows!
Dude start the video tape, strap on that bomb and DETONATE immediately, bc only then will you be able to convince your depressed heathen brethren living under "islamic" law, your a legit martyr in his quest for 71 virgins cows!
I think they are virgin pigs. And the pigs will be doing the pitching while our terrorist friend does the catching. Inshallah, of course! Just sayin'.
"The Correct Islamic Position on ISIS | Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee
Questioner:
Some of the fanatical youth have gone to Syria for Jihad and joined the group which is known as the Islamic State [ISIS], and he mentioned that what is being spread about them such as acts of killing and terrorism is not true, so what is the correct position regarding this group?
Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee:
The correct position is: that it is a Khawarij Takfeeri group. They killed my cousin’s son a few days ago claiming that he is an apostate; because he was part of a different militia faction [Jabhat Al-Nusra]. Both factions have taken the wrong path, regardless of whether they are called an-Nusra or Daaish [ISIS]. However, the latter is worse because the latter does not observe. [Actually]… neither of them have regard for the believers pact of kinship or protection! The nonsense which they announced two or three days ago is sufficient, which is the claim that allegiance must be pledged to the Caliph, whom they claim is the Caliph of the Muslims [worldwide]. These people made some of our youth who joined their group – the first thing they had to do was violate their bay’ah [pledge of allegiance] which they are bound by [to the ruler of Saudi Arabia], and you know the ruling of violating the bay’ah. All of us are bound by a bay’ah, and you [the audience] are bound by a bay’ah to the ruler of this country [UAE].
So this is treachery and betrayal. The betrayer has a flag raised for him which has written on it “This is the betrayal of so-and-so”. And whoever violates the bay’ah is in danger. He is in danger! [the Prophet ﷺ said]: “Whoever separates from the Jama’ah by as little as a hand span, and dies (upon that) then his death is one of jaahiliyah (pre-Islamic ignorance)“. And [he said]: “Whoever withdraws his hand of obedience (to the leader) and separates from the Jama’ah will meet Allah with no proof in his favour“. So these people have violated their agreements and are in breach of their treaties. And they are as far away as can be from the truth. They declare the scholars to be disbelievers, and declare our rulers to be disbelievers. And they have no concern except for takfeer (declaring Muslims to be disbelievers). This is (all) that they know, and what they believe to be the (whole) of the religion. They were deluded by the fatawa (Islamic verdicts) of some of the foolish ones who hide behind the scenes.
And they are of two categories: 1. Those who give fatwas while they are (out there) with them – they [the youth] have taken them as their scholars and have become attached to them, and they do not return to the judgement of Allah, nor do they return to the senior scholars. So [this is the first] of the two types.
There is another type who give fatwa while sitting [far from harm’s way], they give fatwas while in our countries supporting these [groups], and encourage [others] to go to this inferno which they burned [out] the Muslim youth, without any objective. They fight under a blind banner, under a banner of partisanship, and banners of ignorance. The Prophet ﷺ said: “The one who fights under a blind banner is not from us, He fights for partisanship or calls to partisanship“. These people are ignorant, Ignoramuses, young in age, and foolish minded.The Prophet ﷺ warned against them (the Khawarij) and said: “Were I to reach them (when they appear), I would slaughter them with the slaughtering of [the people of] ‘Aad.”
And he said: “The best martyr is one whom they (the Khawarij) kill“. And “They are the worst of those who are killed under the sky” And he said that they are the “Dogs of the hell fire“. And that “They read the Qur’an but it does not go beyond their throats“. And that “They leave the religion just as the arrow leaves the bow. They will not return to it until the arrow returns to its bow“. And he called them “Dogs of the hellfire“. And he mentioned that “They will appear in every century, and whenever they appear they will be cut off, until the Dajjal (Anti-Christ) appears from amongst them” And he said: “You will belittle your prayer in comparison to their prayer, and your worship in comparison to their worship” and other than that from their descriptions which the Prophet ﷺ clarified.
And they are the murders of Ali and the murders of Uthman [may Allah be pleased with both of them]. And they murder the people of Islam and leave [in peace] who? The idol worshippers. As the Truthful and the Confirmed one said about them ﷺ. Their forefathers are the murders of Uthman. One of them went to his [Uthman’s] virtuous skull after they decapitated it from his body and this cursed false-claimer said: “Wallahi I haven’t known a single day from Allah’s days nor a day from the days of jihad better than today”. As for the murder of Ali [may Allah be pleased with him], he was Abd ur-Rahman ibn Muljam, who said: “I have poisoned this spear and it has nine heads: three of them are for Allah and his Messenger, and the remaining six of these heads I poisoned them out of hatred for Ali” [may Allah be pleased with him].
For that reason his companion Imran ibn Hittan said: “O’ that strike from a pious person, he did not want anything from it except to achieve forgiveness from the throne (of Allah). I remember him on that day, so I consider him to be the most sincere of human creatures to Allah“. So one of the Salaf responded to him by saying: “O’ that strike from a wretched person, he did not want anything from it except to achieve [complete] loss from the throne [of Allah]. I remember him on that day, so I consider him to be the most wretched of human creatures to Allah“. From the signs of these people, oh my brothers, is concealment. Is our religion a religion of clarity or secret? A clear religion or a covert religion? It is a clear religion! We have nothing to hide! Which is why Sufyan ath-Thawri [may Allah have mercy on him] said: “If you see the people having secret counsels in regards to their religion, excluding the general folk, then know they are in the process of establishing of misguidance“. I directed a call [lecture] from the Prophets mosque four days ago in response to the claimer of the caliph and his deceitful lying followers who made bay’ah to him. So I ask that you spread it everywhere, perhaps it will be considered (in our favour) with Allah the most Blessed and High.
Translated by Ahmad al-Filistini"
I don't know if you understand that there are Saudis actively killing members of these secular groups. The scholars of mainstream salafism, who reside in Saudi Arabia, have went as far as justifying casualties sustained by drone strikes. Blame is even shifted upon those people who sit around and listen to these deviant, terrorist preachers. Any people willing to sit with these people and listen to them, are part of them, and any harm that comes to people surrounding themselves with these people are at fault for associating with these people.
Any support you have for these deviant secular groups in killing American troops is honestly disturbing. I am not sure what methodology you associate yourself with but your comments are seemingly in support of deviant "terrorist" groups. If anything, the U.S. is helping kill Saudi Arabia's enemies, and has been doing so for some time. I don't support interventionism in these countries because it is at the expense of American lives and taxpayer dollars. These countries need to step up more than they have and fight their own battles with little to no help from the U.S.. All this interventionism has done is got Americans killed, whether it be soldiers fighting overseas or terrorists attacking us at home.
I am assuming you are either ignorant of the United State's commitment to help Saudi Arabia take down its enemies, or you have fallen into some sort of deviant ideology, perhaps you aren't apart of conservative/mainstream salafism at all. This sympathy for terrorists, and people who are seeking knowledge from terrorists is disturbing. Scholars of mainstream salafism have far less sympathy for these terrorists (or even people who associate with terrorists) when compared to U.S. policy makers.
Mr. Deltoid
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Years from know you and your faith will be just a footnote in the history of violent backwards religions. You don't stand a chance against the might of the west. I call to you sir you bring it our southern border is wide open come on over you fucking cowards.
Kevevans34
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Unfortunately I have to read this whole thread so I understand why I was arguing with another American about terrorism and I don't mind reading but their is not one sentence about gear diet or weight training [emoji30] [emoji631][emoji631][emoji631][emoji631][emoji631][emoji631]
Mr. Deltoid
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That's why it's in the general discussion section there's plenty of threads here about all sorts of topics. No offense just trying to explain brother.
Thesecretman
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Please re-read the definition if hypocrisy. Your prune face should be next to that word.
Where's you condemnation of Israel's atrocities? Read "breaking the silence" Israeli soldiers who talk about just how much misery they caused to the gazans.
I dislike isis, I have said this before. However they would not exist if America hasn't gone into Iraq. You admitted as suck yourself. Saddam had that region on locks.
However I do relish the idea of isis getting their hands in your soldiers.
Honestly if they burn one of your soldiers like they did to the Jordanian, I may seriously ask my GF to suck me off whilst I watch it. No joke
Mr. Deltoid
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Man is flawed , there are bad , evil , and weak in every group/race ,religion , creed on the planet. This is why the Constitution is the best hope for mankind. In war bad individuals Will come out on both sides good chance the individual Israeli soldiers that committed the atrocities you speak of had people in his family bombed by rockets and was taking out vengeance for himself as a flawed person. We have to keep this in the forefront of our minds when setting up governments man is flawed we can't allow one man or even a group of men to get power it will always end badly. We must limit man's power and get back to our roots here in the USA and be a beacon for the rest of the world. You secretman are a sick individual and I can't believe the complete evil bullshit you spew.
Blah blah blah blah. What it boils down to is you wanted answers to your loaded questions so you could seize the opportunity and come in with a "gotcha" much like you did to Kawilt. most of the things you accuse me of you've done on several occasions yourself. You have taught me well oh jedi master.
Looky here, I wouldn't know your position on the Middle East bc you haven't stated it.....hmmmmm sounds awfully familiar to me. I've never stated my position either yet you do this exact same thing and still try to paint me with a brush you don't know enough to use. The only thing I have definitively stated regarding my position is that I beleive murder is wrong for any side.
I agree whole heartenly that "murder" is wrong Dodcd . There is nothing wrong with anybody stating their position on Israel and the Middle East. I know exactly what CBS is doing in situations like this. CBS uses a very broad brush in painting critics of Israel as anti-Semitic. He can't seem to differentiate the differences between anti-Semitic and anti- Zionist. Or doesn't want to. CBS is a staunch supporter of the Zionist cause in Israel. I, along with a lot Jews and Jewish religious sects and Jewish organizations are not.
Which is exactly why I refuse to answer some of his ridiculous questions. I'm not interested in some playing game so he can say gotcha and prove his intellectual superiority.
That's smart Docd. I only answer CBS if he will ask me a specific question on the subjects. I will try and back up my opinions with personal knowledge or research from sources that are, to me at least, reputable. At least CBS has admitted that Global Research, which is only one of many news sites I look at, has had some decent articles, and some from the "moonbeams". We get wacko's from all sides of the political spectrum.
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