Isis/Muslim/terrorist rant

Man is flawed , there are bad , evil , and weak in every group/race ,religion , creed on the planet. This is why the Constitution is the best hope for mankind. In war bad individuals Will come out on both sides good chance the individual Israeli soldiers that committed the atrocities you speak of had people in his family bombed by rockets and was taking out vengeance for himself as a flawed person. We have to keep this in the forefront of our minds when setting up governments man is flawed we can't allow one man or even a group of men to get power it will always end badly. We must limit man's power and get back to our roots here in the USA and be a beacon for the rest of the world. You secretman are a sick individual and I can't believe the complete evil bullshit you spew.

Don't you think they terrorist are also motivated by vengeance when seeing their brothers and sisters bombed. But here's the difference, when American/Israeli interests are attacked there are so many options/internationals laws that will allow justice.

However when Muslims are screwed over by the above countries, what recourse do they have? Look at the innocent Muslims held in American detention who cannot sue as America has invoked it's state secrets immunity. This basically means it can screw anyone then put a legal brick wall up.

What about me? Beaten, imprisoned and humiliated in Bagram prison with admittedly one brutal session of waterboarding in front of female soldiers and medics who laughed like dominatrixs?
 
Don't you think they terrorist are also motivated by vengeance when seeing their brothers and sisters bombed. But here's the difference, when American/Israeli interests are attacked there are so many options/internationals laws that will allow justice.

However when Muslims are screwed over by the above countries, what recourse do they have? Look at the innocent Muslims held in American detention who cannot sue as America has invoked it's state secrets immunity. This basically means it can screw anyone then put a legal brick wall up.

What about me? Beaten, imprisoned and humiliated in Bagram prison with admittedly one brutal session of waterboarding in front of female soldiers and medics who laughed like dominatrixs?

You mean American/Saudi/Kuwait/Israeli interests?

The problem that has arose is ignorance amongst people who declare themselves muslim and they are really ignorant about creed and rulings on certain matters, given by scholars who have preserved the religion, I dunno, since it began. Instead you have a lot of people wanting to act on their own desires that really have nothing to do with the religion. Do you believe hussein was friendly to countries like kuwait? Do you believe that Assad is friendly to countries like Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia funded isis to take down Syria and to fight Shiites. What happened was the same thing that happened when we armed the mujahideen. The people that a prince armed (ISIS) turned on everyone except for Muslims that declared fealty to an unknown caliph and those that haven't are to be executed. The prince that funded ISIS has since resigned his position. ISIS is a Saudi project went wrong.

I don't know if you understand that the U.S. and Saudi Arabia are the best of friends. Which would seem strange seeing as Saudi Arabia is the poster child for orthodox Islam. The people in the U.S. may have adopted some stupid, nonsense islamophobia (these are the same people that believe Obama is a Muslim). But that is the reason they apparently need an authoritarian government controlling them. They willing give up their liberty to an ever growing government that has been chipping away at our constitutional rights. The government steals our money to pay for wars, "national defense", a bloated military, government subsidies, law enforcement, a broken criminal justice system, and laughable social welfare programs (including health care). And should you refuse to pay for all this shit with your tax dollars (whether you believe in it or not), you will be thrown in prison.

The U.S. government holds a gun to my head and shakes me down for my lunch money everyday. But it's okay at least we are safe right? Instead of being blown up by terrorists (Boston?) maybe I will just be murdered by an over zealous police officer who kicks in my door and mistakes me for my drug dealing neighbor (no knock warrants are always a great idea right?). Well at least I am not black, I may not have to worry about thugs in uniforms throwing me in a choke hold during a stop and frisk because I was suspected of selling cigarettes. Go USA!!!
 
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You mean American/Saudi/Kuwait/Israeli interests?

The problem that has arose is ignorance amongst people who declare themselves muslim and they are really ignorant about creed and rulings on certain matters, given by scholars who have preserved the religion, I dunno, since it began. Instead you have a lot of people wanting to act on their own desires that really have nothing to do with the religion. Do you believe hussein was friendly to countries like kuwait? Do you believe that Assad is friendly to countries like Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia funded isis to take down Syria and to fight Shiites. What happened was the same thing that happened when we armed the mujahideen. The people that a prince armed (ISIS) turned on everyone except for Muslims that declared fealty to an unknown caliph and those that haven't are to be executed. The prince that funded ISIS has since resigned his position. ISIS is a Saudi project went wrong.

I don't know if you understand that the U.S. and Saudi Arabia are the best of friends. Which would seem strange seeing as Saudi Arabia is the poster child for orthodox Islam. The people in the U.S. may have adopted some stupid, nonsense islamophobia (these are the same people that believe Obama is a Muslim). But that is the reason they apparently need an authoritarian government controlling them. They willing give up their liberty to an ever growing government that has been chipping away at our constitutional rights. The government steals our money to pay for wars, "national defense", a bloated military, government subsidies, law enforcement, a broken criminal justice system, and laughable social welfare programs (including health care). And should you refuse to pay for all this shit with your tax dollars (whether you believe in it or not), you will be thrown in prison.

The U.S. government holds a gun to my head and shakes me down for my lunch money everyday. But it's okay at least we are safe right? Instead of being blown up by terrorists (Boston?) maybe I will just be murdered by an over zealous police officer who kicks in my door and mistakes me for my drug dealing neighbor (no knock warrants are always a great idea right?). Well at least I am not black, I may not have to worry about thugs in uniforms throwing me in a choke hold during a stop and frisk because I was suspected of selling cigarettes. Go USA!!!

Yes your country is a nasty hellhole. Lets drink to its swift demise.
 
Yes your country is a nasty hellhole. Lets drink to its swift demise.

I don't know what country you are from. But I'm sure Saudi Arabia disagrees with you, along with the UAE, Kuwait, and probably Oman. You need to go to Saudi Arabia and consult the talib-ul-ilm who speak on behalf of the REAL sheikhs (not the terrorist ones you probably listen to on YouTube) and get a better sense of where you should stand on certain issues. You can hate the bigotry that exists amongst some of the United States citizens. But to believe that U.S. foreign policy hasn't benefitted the salafi movement would be foolish. Americans have difficulty understanding the difference between ISIS (who claim to be salafi) and the mainstream salafi movement, which is understandable, since they don't consult with students of knowledge and they typically can't read or speak Arabic. In fact ISIS condemned salafi sheikhs and have declared them apostates and has pretty much declared war on Saudi Arabia. So for two groups that claim to be the same, well someone is lying, and it is probably the group that has developed the most recently (ISIS).

Your overwhelming sympathy for Arabs ascribing to deviant sects of Islam leads me to believe you are in fact ignorant of the religion in many aspects. If you were actually part of mainstream salafism you would probably crack a smile at the thought of the U.S. and Israel decimating Iran, Syria, and the whole wide array of terrorist groups. The only thing that should disappoint you is that you won't get a crack at them. Then again maybe you are Shiite or maybe you are affiliated with some terrorist organization, or maybe you are Sufi. But whatever you are, it is likely far removed from what is being preached in Mecca (hopefully you know where and what the Kaaba is).
 
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I don't know what country you are from. But I'm sure Saudi Arabia disagrees with you, along with the UAE, Kuwait, and probably Oman. You need to go to Saudi Arabia and consult the talib-ul-ilm who speak on behalf of the REAL sheikhs (not the terrorist ones you probably listen to on YouTube) and get a better sense of where you should stand on certain issues. You can hate the bigotry that exists amongst some of the United States citizens. But to believe that U.S. foreign policy hasn't benefitted the salafi movement would be foolish. Americans have difficulty understanding the difference between ISIS (who claim to be salafi) and the mainstream salafi movement, which is understandable, since they don't consult with students of knowledge and they typically can't read or speak Arabic. In fact ISIS condemned salafi sheikhs and have declared them apostates and has pretty much declared war on Saudi Arabia. So for two groups that claim to be the same, well someone is lying, and it is probably the group that has developed the most recently (ISIS).

Your overwhelming sympathy for Arabs ascribing to deviant sects of Islam leads me to believe you are in fact ignorant of the religion in many aspects. If you were actually part of mainstream salafism you would probably crack a smile at the thought of the U.S. and Israel decimating Iran, Syria, and the whole wide array of terrorist groups. The only thing that should disappoint you is that you won't get a crack at them. Then again maybe you are Shiite or maybe you are affiliated with some terrorist organization, or maybe you are Sufi. But whatever you are, it is likely far removed from what is being preached in Mecca (hopefully you know where and what the Kaaba is).

I am Sunni. I don't give much authority to Saudi Arabia. I am well read on certain aspects of the religion.

I'm not actually practising. I don't pray or fast but do not drink or eat haram food.

I am a very liberal Muslim. However I just want your nation, your cia and soldiers to suffer. It's long overdue considering your international games.

Read the interview with Julian assange and how he talks about the Ukraine crisis. Your lovely nation has been playing games there too.

I don't care whether its isis or the Boy Scouts - I just want to see your nation burn.

I have a particular sadistic intent towards your female soldiers. Read about a USA female soldier called halfaker - can't remember her first name. She has an arm and shoulder torn off by a rpg. There is a video on YouTube. I found it orgasmic personally. Wish I could taunt her!
 
Which is exactly why I refuse to answer some of his ridiculous questions.

Asking if Israel has the right to exist is a ridiculous question?! Sure, Docd. Whatever you say. :rolleyes:

I guess it's easier to post fabricated quotes that demonize Jews rather than go on the record with your own anti-Semiticism. It is cowardly, though.

At least CBS has admitted that Global Research, which is only one of many news sites I look at, has had some decent articles, and some from the "moonbeams".

No, CBS has not admitted that Global Research has had some decent articles. GR might have articles that contain *some* truth, but it is almost always taken out of context or twisted in someway.

We get wacko's from all sides of the political spectrum.

Indeed. Unfortunately, most come from your side.
 
I know exactly what CBS is doing in situations like this. CBS uses a very broad brush in painting critics of Israel as anti-Semitic. He can't seem to differentiate the differences between anti-Semitic and anti- Zionist. Or doesn't want to. CBS is a staunch supporter of the Zionist cause in Israel. I, along with a lot Jews and Jewish religious sects and Jewish organizations are not.


Fighting Back against the New Anti-Semitism
Throughout the academic and cultural world, the Israel boycott movement is growing.

By Charles Krauthammer — January 10, 2014

For decades, the American Studies Association has labored in well-deserved obscurity. No longer. It’s now made a name for itself by voting to boycott Israeli universities, accusing them of denying academic and human rights to Palestinians.

Given that Israel has a profoundly democratic political system, the freest press in the Middle East, a fiercely independent judiciary, and astonishing religious and racial diversity within its universities, including affirmative action for Arab students, the charge is rather strange.

Made more so when you consider the state of human rights in Israel’s neighborhood. As we speak, Syria’s government is dropping “barrel bombs” filled with nails, shrapnel, and other instruments of terror on its own cities. Where is the ASA boycott of Syria?

And of Iran, which hangs political, religious, and even sexual dissidents and has no academic freedom at all? Or Egypt, where Christians are being openly persecuted? Or Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or, for that matter, massively repressive China and Russia?

Which makes it obvious that the ASA boycott has nothing to do with human rights. It’s an exercise in radical chic, giving marginalized academics a frisson of pretend anti-colonialism, seasoned with a dose of edgy anti-Semitism.

And don’t tell me this is merely about Zionism. The ruse is transparent. Israel is the world’s only Jewish state. To apply to the state of the Jews a double standard that you apply to none other, to judge one people in a way you judge no other, to single out that one people for condemnation and isolation — is to engage in a gross act of discrimination.

And discrimination against Jews has a name. It’s called anti-Semitism.


Former Harvard president Larry Summers called the ASA actions “anti-Semitic in their effect if not necessarily in their intent.” I choose to be less polite. The intent is clear: to incite hatred for the largest — and only sovereign — Jewish community on earth.

What to do? Facing a similar (British) academic boycott of Israelis seven years ago, Alan Dershowitz and Nobel Prize–winning physicist Steven Weinberg wrote an open letter declaring that, for the purposes of any anti-Israel boycott, they are to be considered Israelis.

Meaning: You discriminate against Israelis? Fine. Include us out. We will have nothing to do with you.

Thousands of other academics added their signatures to the Dershowitz/Weinberg letter. It was the perfect in-kind response. Boycott the boycotters, with contempt.

But academia isn’t the only home for such prejudice. Throughout the cultural world, the Israel boycott movement is growing. It’s become fashionable for musicians, actors, writers, and performers of all kinds to ostentatiously cleanse themselves of Israel and Israelis.

The example of the tuxedoed set has spread to the more coarse and unkempt anti-Semites, such as the thugs who a few years ago disrupted London performances of the Jerusalem Quartet and the Israeli Philharmonic.

In this sea of easy and open bigotry, an unusual man has made an unusual statement. Russian by birth, European by residence, Evgeny Kissin is arguably the world’s greatest piano virtuoso. He is also a Jew of conviction. Deeply distressed by Israel’s treatment in the cultural world around him, Kissin went beyond the Dershowitz/Weinberg stance of asking to be considered an Israeli. On December 7, he became one, defiantly.

Upon taking the oath of Israeli citizenship in Jerusalem, he declared: “I am a Jew, Israel is a Jewish state. . . . Israel’s case is my case, Israel’s enemies are my enemies, and I do not want to be spared the troubles which Israeli musicians encounter when they represent the Jewish state beyond its borders.”

Full disclosure: I have a personal connection with Kissin. For the last two years I’ve worked to bring him to Washington to perform for Pro Musica Hebraica, a nonprofit organization (founded by my wife and me) dedicated to reviving lost and forgotten Jewish classical music. We succeeded. On February 24, Kissin will be performing at the Kennedy Center Concert Hall masterpieces of Eastern European Jewish music, his first U.S. appearance as an Israeli.

The persistence of anti-Semitism, that most ancient of poisons, is one of history’s great mysteries. Even the shame of the Holocaust proved no antidote. It provided but a temporary respite. Anti-Semitism is back. Alas, a new generation must learn to confront it.

How? How to answer the thugs, physical and intellectual, who single out Jews for attack? The best way, the most dignified way, is to do like Dershowitz, Weinberg, or Kissin.

Express your solidarity. Sign the open letter or write your own. Don the yellow star and wear it proudly.
 
Asking if Israel has the right to exist is a ridiculous question?! Sure, Docd. Whatever you say. :rolleyes:

I guess it's easier to post fabricated quotes that demonize Jews rather than go on the record with your own anti-Semiticism. It is cowardly, though.



No, CBS has not admitted that Global Research has had some decent articles. GR might have articles that contain *some* truth, but it is almost always taken out of context or twisted in someway.



Indeed. Unfortunately, most come from your side.

I guess it's easier to take quotes out of context to make your otherwise ridiculous point. Yes, the questions were ridiculous bc of the intent behind them. To play gotcha games and paint anyone who dares disagree with the almighty CBS an anti-Semitic.
 
"Given that Israel has a profoundly democratic political system, the freest press in the Middle East, a fiercely independent judiciary, and astonishing religious and racial diversity within its universities, including affirmative action for Arab students, the charge is rather strange."

That is hillarious..
Oh my gosh! CBS you've got to be kidding. We've covered this at length Go back and look at my original response to that video of that slobbering English comedian you posted that started all this. It's getting so boring.
I'm curious as to the handle the Zionist hangs on it's anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews? Like for instance, to name one, the Neturei Karta? Just a few moonbeams?
 
I am Sunni. I don't give much authority to Saudi Arabia. I am well read on certain aspects of the religion.

I'm not actually practising. I don't pray or fast but do not drink or eat haram food.

I am a very liberal Muslim. However I just want your nation, your cia and soldiers to suffer. It's long overdue considering your international games.

Read the interview with Julian assange and how he talks about the Ukraine crisis. Your lovely nation has been playing games there too.

I don't care whether its isis or the Boy Scouts - I just want to see your nation burn.

I have a particular sadistic intent towards your female soldiers. Read about a USA female soldier called halfaker - can't remember her first name. She has an arm and shoulder torn off by a rpg. There is a video on YouTube. I found it orgasmic personally. Wish I could taunt her!


Your views represent those of a significant minority, and in many cases majority, of Muslims.


ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY


People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html


World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Pew Research (2011): Large majorities of Muslims believe in 9/11 conspiracy
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims-westerners-christians-jews-islamic-extremism-september-11
 
Your views represent those of a significant minority, and in many cases majority, of Muslims.


ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY


People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html


World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Pew Research (2011): Large majorities of Muslims believe in 9/11 conspiracy
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims-westerners-christians-jews-islamic-extremism-september-11

WOW...Makes you wonder what we've done wrong.
 
I am Sunni. I don't give much authority to Saudi Arabia. I am well read on certain aspects of the religion.

I'm not actually practising. I don't pray or fast but do not drink or eat haram food.

I am a very liberal Muslim. However I just want your nation, your cia and soldiers to suffer. It's long overdue considering your international games.

Read the interview with Julian assange and how he talks about the Ukraine crisis. Your lovely nation has been playing games there too.

I don't care whether its isis or the Boy Scouts - I just want to see your nation burn.

I have a particular sadistic intent towards your female soldiers. Read about a USA female soldier called halfaker - can't remember her first name. She has an arm and shoulder torn off by a rpg. There is a video on YouTube. I found it orgasmic personally. Wish I could taunt her!

So you are a munafiq? Clearly you are. Are you fucking serious? Liberal muslim? Sunni? The fuck, the sunnah and the word liberal do not mix, there is no place for politics or political opinion under Islamic law. You don't pray which potentially removes you from the fold of Islam. Under the shariah the Muslim body has a duty to threaten you with execution, and should you not return to praying, you are to be executed. If you do not believe the 5 prayers are compulsory it is permissible to pronounce takfeer upon you, declaring that you are indeed an infidel of the worst king, the hypocrite. You shall not receive janazah prayer upon your death and you will be buried amongst disbelievers.

You are in fact not well read in the religion. You have no authority to issue fatwas condemning the United States, you are in fact a hypocrite who is to burn in the lowest depths of the hell fire even below the kafirun.

Saum during the month of Ramadan is also compulsory. If you deny that it is compulsory than that statement removes you from the fold of Islam.

These fatwas are given by orthodox Sunni sheikhs. Not the terrorists you seem to adore, they'd very well kill you for just stating you don't do these things, and wouldn't even give u a chance to fix yourself. Eating pork and consuming alcohol don't remove you from the fold of Islam (unless you adopt the principles of the terrorists) but you abandoning the prayer does, ironic isn't it?

You obviously are ignorant and poorly represent any debate that could be taken seriously. You're just as bad as the American hate mongers that are hell bent on seeing Islam destroyed (which is far removed from actual U.S. foreign policy). Stupid people can be found in America and stupid people can be found representing Islam. And there lies the problem. You have stupid people that push violence but the truth is all you hate mongers and war mongers are too pussy to pick up a gun and do shit. Instead you would rather corrupt the minds of the youth and fill their heads full of your hate propaganda. All you people that back violence tend to be the most cowardly people who would send the young and naive to die before you would ever think about risking your own lives. You people sit back and advocate violence, but you've never had a first hand experience of war.
 
WOW...Makes you wonder what we've done wrong.

Does it? Does it make you wonder what the Hindus have done wrong. Or the Buddhists have done wrong. Or the Zoroastrians, the Coptic Christians, the East Timorese, the Jews, the Chinese, the Thais, the Philippinos, the Sudanese, the Vietnamese, the Sikhs, the Congolese, the Ethiopians? In fact, EVERY civilization in which Islam ever came in contact has done something wrong.

Strange, isn't it? Some might even say that it's ISLAM that has done something wrong. But not you, Kawilt. Oh, No! If they're not a part of that Evil Western civilization, they can do no wrong.
 
We have short memories. And I'm not defending the Muslims. They have done a lot of bad shit ( excuse the language). The problems sometimes are where WE are. For example, our government ( Nixon/Kissinger administration) was more than well aware of the genocide going on in Pakistan, while it was happening. And could have very well stopped it.

"Public memory is short and fleeting. Events register momentarily like a blip on a radar and are then consigned to some dark corner of our cerebral galaxy. The brain needs to be bombarded with repetitive stimuli or jolted by a single moral turpitude of seismic proportions to evoke a strong and sustained re-sponse. In the absence of such reinforcement, a thought fades away from ones mind and that is the unfortunate tragedy of the Bangladesh genocide.
To ascertain the etiology of this amnesia or selective attention deficit we need to delve deeper into the details of this gory chapter of South Asia. In a massive military operation, code named Operation Searchlight aimed at crushing Bengali aspirations of autonomy, the Pakistan army in March of 1971 unleashed a deadly reign of terror that killed about 3 million Bangladeshis and forced another 10 million to seek refuge across the border in India."
That was a Muslim army.
 
You don't pray which potentially removes you from the fold of Islam. Under the shariah the Muslim body has a duty to threaten you with execution, and should you not return to praying, you are to be executed. If you do not believe the 5 prayers are compulsory it is permissible to pronounce takfeer upon you, declaring that you are indeed an infidel of the worst king, the hypocrite.

Do you hear that, Secretman? He just said you're an apostate. The most abhorrent sin.

you are in fact a hypocrite who is to burn in the lowest depths of the hell fire even below the kafirun.

Below the filthy infidels? Say it ain't so, I'm starting to feel bad for Secretman.
 
Tell us, Adolph, how is it a bunch of horseshit?
Well Prime minister Netenyahu, it is horse shit because the idea that keeps cropping up that there's this world wide conspiracy to hate Jews is fucking retarded. Does the entirety of the Middle East pretty much hate Jews? Yes. Does pretty much the entirety of the modern 1st world countries support Israel and Jews? Also yes.
 
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