Private Sources and Why They Aren't the Answer

Discussion in 'Steroid Underground' started by CensoredBoardsSuck, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. rrippenstuff

    rrippenstuff Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    I hate to say it but I agree. If a public source makes a mistake he gets it brought to the publics attention. If I priv source made a bad batch or mistake know one will know . And nothing can be done .
    Great post @CensoredBoardsSuck


     
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  2. Ironwill1999

    Ironwill1999 Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Good stuff!
     
  3. RingMeister01

    RingMeister01 Member

    I would prefer a private source but how do you find one? I don't seem to be in any circle with the possibility of an introduction. Talking parma grade.
     
  4. jaymaximus

    jaymaximus Member

    You asked this question in a thread about why private sources are NOT the answer?

    To answer you, you DONT find a private source. A private source finds you.*

    *and if you get some PMs on here, they are probably not the answer (that was my good deed for this month)
     
  5. ironwill1951

    ironwill1951 Member

    I know a lot of the customers of my private source if we get something bad we do let each other know. and no one else needs to know . an example when u.p. started making bad gear it wasn't long before their customers knew, and a short time later the public knew .


     
  6. anabolicmd

    anabolicmd Junior Member

    First, I would like to say that this was a very well written post. Lots of good information. One thing you said I would like to reference is that " Private sources are small operations that lack the means to test their raw powders and finished products. The gear is usually made in a kitchen by an amateur without training in chemistry or sterility." This could be a possibility, but the reality is most UGL,s are not run by chemists or people trained in that type of setting including the large suppliers. I personally have run tests of raw materials and finished products from basic users to large manufactures of many different kinds of medicines. Where credibility is earned it can still be subjective. Nothing beats a test. So, if somebody can prove the laboratory source to be legitimate and there is a person on the phone to explain the method of testing and details as to how the sample was identified and how reference standards were used then its all really a "good word." I also see SMEC producing final reports. Where are all the graphs that support the evidence for detection? Also, in tablets, what excipients were used? These are even more important that the correct dosing for tablets. The sad thing is that many people do not have access to companies that test. Understand, this is somebody that works in a laboratory who uses a Dinoex 3000 uHPLC. I think what the boards offer is great especially from a practical application (bodybuilder science). I just see a lot of subjectivity in the posts. We look at numbers and when you test the same compounds multiple times for validity they don't lie. It isn't cheap to do the testing I know, but if the topic is quality then I think it can be proven by the numbers. Once again, great post.
     
  7. ironwill1951

    ironwill1951 Member

    and you are ??

     
  8. jbeg1985

    jbeg1985 Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    i appreciate the post! something i have noticed while trolling the underground, is how diligent well known members get to the bottom of the bullshit. but me being a new member i have gotten very little positive response in trying to find a well known established source. I am not concerned about private or public source, i dont care if the source is foreign or domestic. to be honest i am looking for a trustworthy source that stands by their product. yes i fear my order being confiscated but that is part of the risk i can deal with. i can only assume that the fear of me being L.E is the reason i dont recieve any good feed back. im not going to lie, i have almost fallen for some of the scammers to get some gear but i continued to read and have put off in ever case. so with all this being said i would truly appreciate any positive feedback on at least a place to start with purchasing quality gear.

    besides all that being said, i am very thankfull for the members here that have kept me from making mistakes and putting something that is bunk or worse in my ass! i can tell i found the right place for experience and know how in the body building world.
     
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  9. jaymaximus

    jaymaximus Member

    Theres a few sources here that lots of people order from. And you should check out anaboliclab.

    But no one is going to tell you exactly who to order from. And even if they did, why should you listen? Vet or not, you dont know anybody here. You dont know why theyre "helping" you.

    You gotta pick a lab on your own, be a man, and stick by it. In the end its your body youre injecting it into. Good luck.
     
  10. jbeg1985

    jbeg1985 Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    ok, to clarify. i am skeptical by nature, from all i have read some members hold a lot of weight in the forums. but i have looked at aas review sites and one of the more popular sites is naps. everyone of the review sites has them on it. i have also seen naps on hear, so lets say a member has used them before, they could let me know of their experience. long delivery time, good or bad product, if it was bad or confiscated does the site stand by their word and replaced bad or seized gear. also most sites like naps that i have looked at all have multiple products that are all the same just different labs made them. so what are the best labs to go with dragon pharm, genshi labs ext. so for a first time buyer the information is endless. i just dont want to end up pinning something that will kill me and i want to make sure it does its intended purpose. i understand nobody is going to hook me up with their personal dealer and well unless i trusted you like my best friend i wouldnt buy from your personal dealer. but if i have muiltiple people tell me the same place to get gear then that gives me more assurance that im doing it right. its all a game of odds and i would like to stack the deck as much as i can for myself.
     
  11. CdnGuy

    CdnGuy Member

    I use private but with MB's program would be open to public as well now. Private is wayyyy more convenient and product decent thus far. But that could change over night. It's all a gamble either way....
     
  12. Cardinal Rule

    Cardinal Rule Junior Member

    I am new here also, but spent a very long time reading on this forum. Every question you have has been answered in several places. I made the decision to start my first cycle from reading right here on ME SO. The vets will be the first to tell you to keep reading, the info is here.
     
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  13. adam cabby

    adam cabby Junior Member

    AS a Newbie to this site, this post makes sense. Thanks for the great information
     
  14. jbeg1985

    jbeg1985 Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    thank you, i have continued to read. I probably spend more time than i would like to admit reading here. Most nights a minimum of an hour. I finally made a choice and my stuff should be to me soon. I found muiltiple sources that from feedback on threads i found to be worth the risk. But i am going to continue educating myself on the subject and can hopefully reach my goals.
     
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  15. RandallNowan

    RandallNowan Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Excellent post.

    Tell me - wouldn't the dark web and a peer-reviewed market be an excellent place for people to be selling their gear (if they had any confidence in it!)

    There seem to be all manner of high grade recreational substances just a few clicks away... I'd have thought the market for AAS was comparable to some of what's sold on there....?
     
  16. RandallNowan

    RandallNowan Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    N.B. I wouldn't call a dark market source a private source... It's public... Just not available to total technotards or granny having a random clickabout on her grandson's lappy.
     
  17. Burrr

    Burrr Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Most of us wont spend much time on the dark web. I had TOR going for a couple weeks, navigating was difficult and every time I clicked on something I was worried I was gonna get hacked or catch something.
    Now they are talking about search warrants on anyone with TOR
     
  18. RandallNowan

    RandallNowan Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    Yeah, I'm hearing this.
    If you use a VPN then they can't tell you're on TOR, though.
    Fucking invasive bastards... I should be able to communicate however I want!
     
  19. Troypg

    Troypg Junior Member

    im new to all of this and i appreciate the concern for transparency
     
  20. Burrr

    Burrr Member AnabolicLab.com Supporter

    The guy who asked me about my source last year, only to post the email of a private lab and call me a shill just PMed me asking for a source. GTFO, lol
     
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