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pmac928 said:
What happens when hammer tanks and the Guys tat are over there so eager to jump on them start crying. Do we have sympathy for them guys and take their backs even after all the warnings were given? It's going to happen. I personally won't have sympathy for anybody I'm that situation. It has happened and will continue to happen, I just hope the tht the help we are willing to provide reaches more guys that will use it. Only time will tell I guess, but even after all this discussion guys are ready and willing to step right up. Kind of discouraging.
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Did you ever get burned? Did you get shit on or did some members not judge you and eventually pointed you In the right direction? Enable you to empower yourself and become a part of this community?
 
gr8whitetrukker said:
But back to @brutus79 other point. Who hacked your account lol?

Your one of the top 3 most ferocious members here lol
1 biggerben69
2 brutus79
3 probably Jballz

Im confused?
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This place is very precious to me and I'm not the only one. I felt us drifting apart- and divided we are weaker. Fuck that. Know who your enemies are and who will fight... and the answer came that we need more soldiers. More leaders. This leads to more bloods. More people who can spot counterfeit products. Who know where a scammer was last. All that shit.

I still would not recommend fucking with me... this is a new year and we need to look at how to amplify the wonderful things that happen instead of bickering over bullshit.
 
greenddog1 said:
Great post Brutus. Common sense prevails!

@d-red, I have to disagree with you regarding having a moderator. We have many members here that are capable of directing the dialogs of sources on the board. Sources are going pop in and it's up to us to seek the right info and inform members of their concerns or validity of the sources' input. In a sense, we have self moderation. An appointed moderator is a form of censorship, which Millard has worked very hard to avoid. I find it a priviledge that I appreciate.
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and we have many members here who are NOT capable of directing dialog with sources. some are childish and act immature( not meaning one specific person). wht i mean...say you have a group of people....out of tht group are gonna be some "crazies",lol.
ok..say...a source scams another member..wht is a reg member gonna do? pm him to death? well..i think you guys have your ways of wanting to do things...and thats fine...thts way i have specificly stayed outta it. most the guys on this board dont even use the sources from here anyway.
 
brutus79 said:
Did you ever get burned? Did you get shit on or did some members not judge you and eventually pointed you In the right direction? Enable you to empower yourself and become a part of this community?
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I have been burned. A few times. But once I was burned I listened up and payed attention to guys who had more experience. My point was even after everything that was spoken about in the hammer thread guys were saying ,"I don't give a fuck what you assholes say, I'm going to order anyway." It for me is discouraging on what we are trying to accomplish here.
 
pmac928 said:
I have been burned. A few times. But once I was burned I listened up and payed attention to guys who had more experience. My point was even after everything that was spoken about in the hammer thread guys were saying ,"I don't give a fuck what you assholes say, I'm going to order anyway." It for me is discouraging on what we are trying to accomplish here.
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The answer (this isn't it) lies in future membership. Why shame the person who might own a mass spec? Make him feel like an idiot because he was impatient about getting buff because his wife just ran off with another man? Maybe the martin luther king of bodybuilding forums joins next week and we ridicule him because he asks for a source? Think bigger than the immediate future. Fuck hammer. Fuck the random newb who jumps- this is about tens of thousands of people through here that see how we all act and decide whether they want to help or not, no?
d-red said:
and we have many members here who are NOT capable of directing dialog with sources. some are childish and act immature( not meaning one specific person). wht i mean...say you have a group of people....out of tht group are gonna be some "crazies",lol.
ok..say...a source scams another member..wht is a reg member gonna do? pm him to death? well..i think you guys have your ways of wanting to do things...and thats fine...thts way i have specificly stayed outta it. most the guys on this board dont even use the sources from here anyway.
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brutus79 said:
The answer (this isn't it) lies in future membership. Why shame the person who might own a mass spec? Make him feel like an idiot because he was impatient about getting buff because his wife just ran off with another man? Maybe the martin luther king of bodybuilding forums joins next week and we ridicule him because he asks for a source? Think bigger than the immediate future. Fuck hammer. Fuck the random newb who jumps- this is about tens of thousands of people through here that see how we all act and decide whether they want to help or not, no?
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see^^^ how can anyone say no to that. i got nothing negative to say after that,lol.
 
brutus79 said:
Hey- anyone who is down with this descend upon new member introductions. Make them feel welcome. Warn them about peoole trying to source via pm. Let them know we are here to answer questions. Sources are here today, gone tomorrow so we don't point them out or refer- but have them read through a source thread like pep. Or astro. Or bio. Learn. If they must buy tell them about bloodwork. Make them feel like family. I promise this is the way towards a bigger, better meso.
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I think you are right but I want to point out a few cases where I think it is important to draw distinctions. Some new guys who show up here clearly have a bad attitude. They aren't hard to spot and at a minimum I think the guys who have been around the longest here should call them out early for that attitude and let them know that is not how we operate.

Toning things down in the underground should help as I think some of these guys read all the "get the fuck out of here you scammer" posts and think that it is acceptable to engage other members the same way. If after being called out for his attitude a new guy doesn't change his behavior then we the members need to make it clear they aren't welcome here. You have to cut out the cancer before it spreads.

Making mistakes or asking dumb questions are both okay and should lead to guys being pointed in the right direction. Coming here with an attitude and being an asshole towards other members shouldn't be accepted.

Having said all that I can say I found everyone here to helpful and welcoming when I joined. My knowledge is much more on the training side than on the AAS side and I tried to be helpful when I could there and I was surprised how quickly well known members were willing to answer stupid questions for me after they knew I was willing to contribute where I could.

So I do think we need to hold new members to at least a basic set of standards and by doing so we should add many more contributing, productive members which is what Brutus is trying to achieve.
 
brutus79 said:
Which is why I don't think "sources" or "no sources" are the only choices. How about more members making better choices. Knowing what is realistic to expect. Who knows? Maybe the next member you make friends with owns a hormone factory in China- does that appeal to the self serving genre? [emoji12]
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Not much to add. This hits it on the head. You can not force members from ordering & getting scammed. But we can educate and influence! The combative attacking of members not only clouds real issues & topics but I feel drives some members to PM relationships with these sources & cultivates a feeling of fear from members to not share information that might contradict other more established members.
 
But sometimes the tenacity shown by the above mentioned members will be needed. I appreciate the brutal honesty if JohnnyBALLZ, CBS, bb69 & yes Brutus to just name a few.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Whenever you tag me in a post I never get the notifications. Strange

I spent my wad in the other thread and kind of lost faith in the member's ability to affect change. I'm burned out on this issue so I don't have much to add.

What you're proposing is essentially a member code of conduct and that's probably the best way to go about changing Meso's culture. I'm not sure I share your faith in noob's willingness to play along, or that they can be swayed by "treating them well" and "pointing them in the right direction." Most noobs are kids and kids are idiots. No matter what you tell them, they're going to do whatever them want.

Case in point is the Hammer Anabolics thread. Mr. Deltoid warned about the high risk of getting bunk or underdosed product from an UNKNOWN source, and the NEXT two posters to come stumbling along are ready and willing to place an order. You can't fix stupid. Not with love. Not with a swift kick in the ass.
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And the only way to fix a loud mouth is a fat cock in the mouth... Stupid... your a joke!!!
 
This ridiculous bullshit is one of the things I don't like about meso. You came in here solely to start a fight. He must have gotten the better of you in another thread and you had to impart your wisdom here. Again wtf is wrong with you?
 
First off it was in this thread, But saying anything back to the posse is forbidden so just fuck it
 
pumpin69 said:
First off it was in this thread, But saying anything back to the posse is forbidden so just fuck it
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Hey brother is everything ok? Do you need help with anything? I know CBS can sound like a dick sometimes, but he is really a decent guy once you get to know him.
If you need someone to stand against the so called posse with you then let's stand brother. We are all here together as a team. We will not all see eye to eye but that's ok because we are all different people and feel different ways. You shouldn't feel scared to ever say something. Just try and stay focused and calm and you'll be received better.
You and me brother. Let's get this off your chest and then shake hands with the posse and agree to disagree.
We need everyone here on Meso to feel part of the team. Join the band of brothers with me pp69. We don't have to agree with everything everyone wants and we don't have to like everyone here but we need to be together as Meso brothers. What do you say brother? I'm right here beside you.
 
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