Secret Sources, the SCOC and the Steroid Underground

I like what pumping iron has been doing !! Source pop's up and we lay the rule down !! "You are not allowed to source here you can leave an email if you like that's all , thank you " ...If we stick to this we can change the culture may take time but it's possible ! Sources will source regardless and it's better it happens in private and not in the open where everyone blindly and happily sets there self up for LE! Let's let the discussion of these sources be what leads us in the right direction not the other way around !
@Jruiz @pumpingiron22 @OdieM

This is what I am in favor for! Bump!
 
I like what pumping iron has been doing !! Source pop's up and we lay the rule down !! "You are not allowed to source here you can leave an email if you like that's all , thank you " ...If we stick to this we can change the culture may take time but it's possible ! Sources will source regardless and it's better it happens in private and not in the open where everyone blindly and happily sets there self up for LE! Let's let the discussion of these sources be what leads us in the right direction not the other way around !

Bump!

I like it. Pumping iron also said that if the sources wanted to. That they could become a member and contribute to the board. What's yalls thoughts on that?
 
I don't think telling sources they can't source is effective. Just look at the fuckbag in the h2 thread. If we allow sources just put them in their own thread and leave ug for discussion. If we don't allow sources then a mod is needed to delete source threads and ban them.
 
Astro and the other labs here arent listening . They are going to keep doing what they've always done here unless : Millard intervenes and shuts them down ....or Millard appoints moderators who go in and shuts them down .

You cant fight the UGL"s with bad language , your bringing a peashooter to a gunfight , and they have Uzi"s . Millards going to have to get tough , or this place will remain a steroids garbage dump....
 
Astro and the other labs here arent listening . They are going to keep doing what they've always done here unless : Millard intervenes and shuts them down ....or , Millard appoints moderators who go in and shuts them down .

You cant fight the UGL"s with bad language , your bringing a peashooter to a gunfight , and they have Uzi"s . Millards going to have to get tough , or this place will remain a steroids garbage dump....

Not true. At my other forum the mods do not edit or delete posts by sources trying to source in the UG section. The members do a good enough job of getting them to stay out of it. As has been mentioned previously, Astro tried sourcing at the other board and failed miserably without any sort of moderation by the mods.
 
If we don't stand our ground and make this place home, Millard will not bring down the hammer on sources unless they break rules. He won't censor Even the bad content that's my opinion I may be wrong
 
Not true. At my other forum the mods do not edit or delete posts by sources trying to source in the UG section. The members do a good enough job of getting them to stay out of it. As has been mentioned previously, Astro tried sourcing at the other board and failed miserably without any sort of moderation by the mods.

This is not "my other forum". This is Meso , where Astro is dug in deep. Its going to take a Warn winch to pull him out of here...
 
The only time I've seen the ban hammer come out was over repeated spam posts from levram. Docd, which forum do you speak of?
 
Astro is poisoning members and they are fighting back by placing advanced orders. It's getting ridiculous. A member posted how he was out of work for a week with pain and flu like symptoms similar to a half dozen other members posted before him.
He even used a syringe to partially drain an abscess. He says he's fairly certain that's just what he can expect from all UGL's? Someone needs to inform his parents or teacher before he really hurts himself.


Astro and the other labs here arent listening . They are going to keep doing what they've always done here unless : Millard intervenes and shuts them down ....or Millard appoints moderators who go in and shuts them down .

You cant fight the UGL"s with bad language , your bringing a peashooter to a gunfight , and they have Uzi"s . Millards going to have to get tough , or this place will remain a steroids garbage dump....
 
Ben, you sound pretty convinced that the Astro gear is dirty. I have not been following the astro thread and I'm not gonna defend his gear..... but wouldn't you expect some people to have reactions to the BA, or the oils, or even the steroid? Wouldn't there be a similar number of bad reactions from pharma gear?
 
Biggerben just has a personal problem with astro. He has no problem with his buddy selling underdosed test and sending out underdosed raws, hell he will even shut down anyone that asks questions..
 
I bought a cycle's worth of gear once that was brewed with sesame oil, all it took was one pin for me to know that I had an allergy to sesame oil injected into a muscle. Tossed an entire cycle in the trash, ordered again asking for GSO base. Pinned happily ever after.
Who the fuck get's sick from gear, and pins the shit two more times.... SMH
 
who are you referring to that is his buddy selling underdosed gear ?

Biggerben just has a personal problem with astro. He has no problem with his buddy selling underdosed test and sending out underdosed raws, hell he will even shut down anyone that asks questions..
 
This is not "my other forum". This is Meso , where Astro is dug in deep. Its going to take a Warn winch to pull him out of here...

Of course and we saved ourselves half the headache by not letting him dig in deep to begin with. That still doesn't change the fact that you don't rely need the mod or Millard to change the atmosphere of this place. You need a culture change and it'll take time but it will accomplish the same thing. Expecting change overnight is a stretch. Giving up and putting the responsibility on someone other than the members themselves is going against what millard hopes for. Keep giving Astro and everyone else shit, make their lives miserable here, warn others not to buy, gang up on them, etc and no one will last long.
 
Nophat, go look in the steroid testing forum, he sold shitty raws to some members and same with finished product.

If your calling Ben out then call him out. Don't expect us to jump through hoops to figure out what the hell you are talking about.
 
Wait, I'm a little confused with what Manny and PI are doing. They are going to the source threads and saying this is not a source board out of fear of legal ramifications?
 
yo bro wtf not shitty raws they tested what they where saposed to!
underdosed ya and i made up for that.No what your talking about!
Dont judge me BRA!
Maybe once a month a mass spec should be done on some of the products.
To show they are what we say.
 
Of course and we saved ourselves half the headache by not letting him dig in deep to begin with. That still doesn't change the fact that you don't rely need the mod or Millard to change the atmosphere of this place. You need a culture change and it'll take time but it will accomplish the same thing. Expecting change overnight is a stretch. Giving up and putting the responsibility on someone other than the members themselves is going against what millard hopes for. Keep giving Astro and everyone else shit, make their lives miserable here, warn others not to buy, gang up on them, etc and no one will last long.

The problem is Astro's been here over 15 months , thats alot of time to gain customers . Even if he never gained another new client he could probably stay in business quite sometime with his current clientel . And Astro is quite use to threats and bad language , your not going to faze him with idle threats.....
 
Wait, I'm a little confused with what Manny and PI are doing. They are going to the source threads and saying this is not a source board out of fear of legal ramifications?

Partially out of fear for legal ramifications, partially bc this is not what was intended for this section to be, and partly bc they're sick of it and want to do what's within their power to drive change.
 
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