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Tesofensine by Qingdao Sigma Chemical

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Tesofensine is priced at $60/10g, $220/50g and $330/100g by @Qingdao Sigma Chemicals, which is suspiciously far below the quote of roughly $200/g I received from my own sources, who just laughed at their pricing saying I should test it because it'll be 100% fake. Noticing the questions about Tesofensine testing in QSC's thread going unanswered and the 380usd per labtest making this unlikely to get exposed anytime soon, I acquired a sample in a way that will hopefully protect me from the retaliation via doxxing attempts and other means I'm fully expecting.

Whatever all the components in this sample are, none of them are even close to Tesofensine as the analysis report I have attached as a .pdf shows:

White powder in plastic bag
Expected MW: 327.11 (M)
As per formula: C17H23Cl2NO
Found: several migrating peaks with no related masses, MH+ mass search yielded no results
Unknown compound

qsc tesofensine.png

The reason I've waited until now to post this thread was that I wanted to verify that legitimate, high quality Tesofensine raws did indeed exist for a price that exceeds its factory price, so here's that test report including the raw data: https://janoshik.com/tests/26914-Tesofensine_5301_WKZBWCVBXR7A

Thanks to everyone who helped and to @janoshik for always setting up these non-standard tests and explaining the results in such detail that the time this consumes probably consumes any potential profit as well.
 

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What QSC identified as tesofensine looked more like large grains/crystals rather than white powder.

I was more concerned about the bag code numbers getting mixed up between the shipper and QSC. ie: DHT, provoron, tesofensin raws. Thinking I'm taking an androgen that was marked with the wrong id number, and actually taking a huge overdose of tesofensine!

This wouldn't be so bad (still fucked up) if they were all androgens and you took the wrong one, but throw teso into the mix, and shit could go sideways for the user real fast. Tesofensine wouldn't be something you'd want to OD on with a dose hundreds of times outside the therapeutic range that's dosed in the mcg range.

So now I've possibly got both raws mixed up and fake teso, that appears totally different than the "white powder" description in your tested as real teso.

I find this is disturbing enough to not use any of the raws until I get things straightened out with at least conformation with an accurate visual description.

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Clyde said:
What QSC identified as tesofensine looked more like large grains/crystals rather than white powder.

I was more concerned about the bag code numbers getting mixed up between the shipper and QSC. ie: DHT, provoron, tesofensin raws. Thinking I'm taking an androgen that was marked with the wrong id number, and actually taking a huge overdose of tesofensine!

This wouldn't be so bad (still fucked up) if they were all androgens and you took the wrong one, but throw teso into the mix, and shit could go sideways for the user real fast. Tesofensine wouldn't be something you'd want to OD on with a dose hundreds of times outside the therapeutic range that's dosed in the mcg range.

So now I've possibly got both raws mixed up and fake teso, that appears totally different than the "white powder" description in your tested as real teso.

I find this is disturbing enough to not use any of the raws until I get things straightened out with at least conformation with an accurate visual description.

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And....

Upon closer inspection of the three raws, two weigh ~11g in the bag. The teso weighs ~4g in the same bag as the other two.

Perhaps I misunderstood the price list, but I thought $60 was for 10g of tesofensine rather than 3g?
 
Would be cool if others did the test not a source.
Not saying this is fake just that a source could damage the other source by ordering raws and sending in something else for testing .
But the price of testing and the not so popular chemical also make it a good item to use for selective scamming .
Another bad test surfaced with also a rare raw (deus incident) but that was also a source .
People who send in raws always end up on point .
Curious what others think is qsc scaming?
 
it makes it hard to believe when a source sends another sources gear for testing. I’m sure you can image why.

Especially so with liska because they don’t seem to care when other raws sources get bad testing (recently dragon ordinance had anadrol in their anavar, she was mysteriously quiet about that), It seems from my perspective they have had a witch hunt for QSC since the get-go. Unsure why? So it makes it even harder to believe that she sent in an actual QSC product. Given the drama between the two of them I’d say test your own raws/gear and draw your conclusions yourself.

There is a big conflict of interest not only a source testing another sources gear, But this source specifically because she seems to thrive on drama. Especially so with QSC.

To me it seems strange all the other blind testing have come back good but a raw that’s only slightly more expensive than tren is faked? Seems pointless to me?
 
GuerillaPete said:
Would be cool if others did the test not a source.
Not saying this is fake just that a source could damage the other source by ordering raws and sending in something else for testing .
But the price of testing and the not so popular chemical also make it a good item to use for selective scamming .
Another bad test surfaced with also a rare raw (deus incident) but that was also a source .
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Tesofensine and Toremifene are almost uniquely the compounds QSC has failed to produce in-house labtests for despite being asked several times over several weeks/months respectively. Rarely a source may not have these on hand when requested by a customer, but for a source to be unable/unwilling to get these at all is unheard of.

I wouldn't have ordered/caught this either had they not underpriced the compound so severely, and with purchasing raws literally being their entire business, there's no chance they would not have noticed one manufacturer offering a compound known to be pricy at an unbelievable bargain and neglect to have this labtested in-house. With any catalogue as extensive as theirs, selective scamming becomes extremely difficult to uncover unless the source slips up this badly, and when said source doesn't cover labtesting in full especially for these non-standard compound tests, seeing an actual customer blindtest for one of these (which they may still contact the source about privately and can be bribed or threatened into compliance at that point) is on par with unicorn sightings.
 
Liska said:
Tesofensine and Toremifene are almost uniquely the compounds QSC has failed to produce in-house labtests for despite being asked several times over several weeks/months respectively. Rarely a source may not have these on hand when requested by a customer, but for a source to be unable/unwilling to get these at all is unheard of.

I wouldn't have ordered/caught this either had they not underpriced the compound so severely, and with purchasing raws literally being their entire business, there's no chance they would not have noticed one manufacturer offering a compound known to be pricy at an unbelievable bargain and neglect to have this labtested in-house. With any catalogue as extensive as theirs, selective scamming becomes extremely difficult to uncover unless the source slips up this badly, and when said source doesn't cover labtesting in full especially for these non-standard compound tests, seeing an actual customer blindtest for one of these (which they may still contact the source about privately and can be bribed or threatened into compliance at that point) is on par with unicorn sightings.
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How is a source deciding which product they test unheard of? I imagine they test the hottest sellers. They’ve offered me store credit to test any product that’s not currently tested.

Also what is the logic of selling something very cheap if your goal is selective scamming? That doesn’t make any sense. If I’m going to selective scam someone I’m going to do it with my most expensive products (which his most expensive products are tested). I really think you just enjoy stirring the pot. You’re a source constantly posting in another sources thread and stirring drama up. But you had a cow when someone posts in your thread.

Question- if QSC bought something from you, would you trust their testing? Probably unlikely right?

That’s why this all seems very far fetched. Especially from you personally
 
Anadrol said:
it makes it hard to believe when a source sends another sources gear for testing. I’m sure you can image why.

Especially so with liska because they don’t seem to care when other raws sources get bad testing (recently dragon ordinance had anadrol in their anavar, she was mysteriously quiet about that), It seems from my perspective they have had a witch hunt for QSC since the get-go. Unsure why? So it makes it even harder to believe that she sent in an actual QSC product. Given the drama between the two of them I’d say test your own raws/gear and draw your conclusions yourself.

There is a big conflict of interest not only a source testing another sources gear, But this source specifically because she seems to thrive on drama. Especially so with QSC.

To me it seems strange all the other blind testing have come back good but a raw that’s only slightly more expensive than tren is faked? Seems pointless to me?
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To cut a shill short: I'm somewhat confident QSC will not try to deny that this product was theirs and that the test result is not manipulated.

Tesofensine costs $200/g, Trenbolone costs $2/g.
 
Anadrol said:
How is a source deciding which product they test unheard of? I imagine they test the hottest sellers. They’ve offered me store credit to test any product that’s not currently tested.

Also what is the logic of selling something very cheap if your goal is selective scamming? That doesn’t make any sense. If I’m going to selective scam someone I’m going to do it with my most expensive products (which his most expensive products are tested). I really think you just enjoy stirring the pot. You’re a source constantly posting in another sources thread and stirring drama up. But you had a cow when someone posts in your thread.

Question- if QSC bought something from you, would you trust their testing? Probably unlikely right?

That’s why this all seems very far fetched. Especially from you personally
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... do you mean like they did when they sent $100 worth of Clomid labelled Toremifene to a customer but charged $2500? Come on, man.
 
Liska said:
To cut a shill short: I'm somewhat confident QSC will not try to deny that this product was theirs and that the test result is not manipulated.

Tesofensine costs $200/g, Trenbolone costs $2/g.
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You literally just posted saying it’s $60 for 10g. We aren’t talking about whoever you source from, you’re discussing QSC.

You hate this dude but you can stop trying to source his products lol.

Yes I’m a shill because I point out the blatantly obvious. You are a drama queen and it’s hard to believe a source testing another sources raws. Especially because of your drama. If dragon tested QSCs raws I’d believe him over you because he isn’t up in every sources thread every day stirring shit. Miserable cunt
 
Liska said:
Tesofensine and Toremifene are almost uniquely the compounds QSC has failed to produce in-house labtests for despite being asked several times over several weeks/months respectively. Rarely a source may not have these on hand when requested by a customer, but for a source to be unable/unwilling to get these at all is unheard of.

I wouldn't have ordered/caught this either had they not underpriced the compound so severely, and with purchasing raws literally being their entire business, there's no chance they would not have noticed one manufacturer offering a compound known to be pricy at an unbelievable bargain and neglect to have this labtested in-house. With any catalogue as extensive as theirs, selective scamming becomes extremely difficult to uncover unless the source slips up this badly, and when said source doesn't cover labtesting in full especially for these non-standard compound tests, seeing an actual customer blindtest for one of these (which they may still contact the source about privately and can be bribed or threatened into compliance at that point) is on par with unicorn sightings.
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There also was a custom made anavar order that ended up very underdosed as well .
Many did not believe that also but as this start stacking up its probably also true.
Could some employes be making money on the side with this hustles ?
 
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