hurricane
Well-known Member
I appreciate your honesty on this matter. As a believer I have no issues with those who don't. I do have issues towards those who mock my faith.
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Why there almost certainly is No God!!
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Sparkyp
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It’s all good bro. I respect that.
staynattybruh
Member
Currently in service and never seen that once happening. On the contrary, many have lost there faith down range.
No atheists in foxholes is a ridiculous statement.
staynattybruh
Member
I think it's important to clarify that the "almost" part is referring to a more Deistic view rather then the view of a personal god of the 3 monotheistic religion. Let's say we do fine overwhelming evidence for a god. Your work is still ahead of the believed to prove there personal god is this one.
hurricane
Well-known Member
Saw it more times then I can count.
I guess you've never had to go through dropping danger close ordnance less then 50 meters away.
Not to mention almost all the teams I was attached to would say a prayer before each mission. Most(not all), would join in.
And personally I see more vets turning to God since I've been out.
So while I believe your experience it certainly doesn't represent what I saw and still see with vets.
hurricane
Well-known Member
Well I don't know the op and won't imply what he exactly meant by putting almost. Only that he didn't completely shut the door on the idea of a God existing.
If you're in harm's way stay safe.
staynattybruh
Member
And I dont doubt yours, I'm simply stating the arguement is invalid and again, pointless because it neither proves or disproves gods existence and I've experienced the opposite. Also, people do very drastic things when in a weak emotional state, I dont doubt peoples sincerity of becoming more faithful but it should be recognized you can be very defenseless when making rational decisions under these circumstances. The argument that people under misery turn to god is proof of nothing, other then some people can be convinced through emotion that they need a god.
Also, I'd rather not comment on my experiences down range. It's not something I think should be boasted or used as proof about, since its ancedoctical.
staynattybruh
Member
Sure I am assuming that is what the OP is referring to but this is still crucial part that still needs answering on behalf of the believer even if he isn't and it's another god of the gaps situation.
I'm curious, would It make a difference if the OP did believe there could possibly be a god of the universe but has not made himself known/ not a personal god? Or do you assume he's referring to the Abrahamic religions god?
hurricane
Well-known Member
No I don't assume what God he may be referring to. And it wouldn't make a difference to me.
Individuals perceive God or a "higher power" in many different ways.
But I've been at the hospital since 2am with my wife who's in labor.
She's my priority. Religious discussions solve nothing and cause hostility. I'm not going down that rabbit hole anymore.
staynattybruh
Member
Religious discussions do solve problems and create compromise, if that wasnt true, there wouldnt be the freedom of relgion act... very important and they dont have to be hostile. If you think I'm being to aggresive its merely passion attributing this.
Congratulations by the way and wish you healthy child.
A letter in which Albert Einstein explicitly rejected God and religion will be auctioned in December for the second time since the famous physicist wrote it a year before his death.
Einstein wrote the letter to a Jewish philosopher in 1954, and it caused a sensation when it first went public at an auction sale in 2008 — complete with Einstein’s unambiguous declaration, “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. ”
staynattybruh
Member
I wish it were donated to a museum of some sort. So many religous people attempt to infer Einstein believed in a god (in the divine entinty sense) or more specifically a personal one. Absolutely inexcusable at this point making that claim unless you want to be labeled a moron.
JackSmooth
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Exodus 21:20-21
Found this one interesting.
Found this one interesting.
staynattybruh
Member
The worst thing about this is a vast amount of believers will use the same discredited argument of "slaves were more like indentured servants back then".
First of all, owning another human being as property is wrong and they were treated as such. Period. However, It is true during Roman reign, slaves could buy there way into freedom(although Roman law wasn't entirely enforced due to its vast empire and a lot of it functioned like our US territory's do today, so there was a good majority of slaves that couldn't do this) and it wasn't like how black people were treated. Slaves were not based on race but circumstance.
Second, the whole point is it seems strange the moral Abrahamic god wants to stop people from masturbating, eating seafood and what clothes to wear but somehow finds nothing wrong with slavery.
staynattybruh
Member
Pre-ordered the book! I'm in the middle of leaving the country I'm stationed at so I had it delivered to my home in the states for when I return next week. I'm currently reading A Brief History Of Time and it's truly fun and absurdly informing to read!
WTF!!!
chileandawg
New Member
amen brother
Most important part: religion of any class is the rigth track to find my ditch near of God
