The destruction the US created in the Middle East

[Sp2.0]

Discussion is about changing minds and all that... I usually don't do that. I am more of an ad hominem guy. I was helping our retarded friend find something useful to do since his insult game is so wanting. I am well aware talking to you is a complete waste of time... just burning some minutes with a maga while I wait to board a plane. Go fuck yourself.

Kisses pumpkin.

 

[ickyrica]

since his insult game is so wanting

holy shit, wasn't it? Straddling pathetic if anything.

 

[FishnTom]

That was your first post that even flirted with being coherent. Congrats.

Says u

 

[brutus79]

Says u

I "has to says" because nobody knows what the fuck you are saying. Go a little deeper in the woods where there is no signal.

 

[Oregongearhead]

You make maga look good. While my ideologies are based on my research of history, communities, the life experiences of myself and a variety of ethnic backgrounds I familiarize myself with combined together with empathy I have developed through pain, suffering and loss of my own- you make me question those beliefs simply by the reprehensible, childish tone of your posts. There is no excuse. You have made some intelligent connections and points here and there but they are immediately stripped of all credibility when you lack the ability to discern who you should be insulting, why you are insulting them and how you should go about those insults. Your trash talking doesn't even qualify as second rate and when called to task for this pathetic showing your response is to laugh because this is "just the stupid internet" and these are just a "bunch of idiot conservatives " so you aren't wasting your time... yet the fact you continue to reply and aaste your time belies the fact that this is the best you can do- and that is just sad.

You will never win an argument in which you write off everything being said by the party you are arguing with. The point of any discourse is to get the other party to see your side and perhaps think differently about theirs- that is a "win". Absent that you only get a win when you get the other party angry enough to say things that get them banned- and while that is satisfying you just are not adept enough in your verbiage to make that possible. You don't anger people- you inspire pity. Take.more time or don't waste your time. Trust me.

Discussion is about changing minds and all that... I usually don't do that. I am more of an ad hominem guy. I was helping our retarded friend find something useful to do since his insult game is so wanting. I am well aware talking to you is a complete waste of time... just burning some minutes with a maga while I wait to board a plane. Go fuck yourself.

Ok who woke up "The Brutus" ??....Now ya done it !... lol

 

[FishnTom]

I "has to says" because nobody knows what the fuck you are saying. Go a little deeper in the woods where there is no signal.

I been to those countries retard only u don't know what I am saying

 

[brutus79]

I been to those countries retard only u don't know what I am saying

Clearly there is not a test of any kind to go to them. I'm really proud of you bro.

 

[Rockclimber]

Shit statistic. Most people who commit gun violence don't take the time to run down and register. Did you really just turn this into self righteous indignation about gun ownership? I know you are better than that. The mouth breathing, middle American white trash are more than 1% of gun owners. Don't be dramatic. I go shooting and a large percentage of the people at the range look that way. Fat and out of shape and white almost always equals gun owner. America as a whole is a bunch of fat, proud to be patriotic ignorant fucks. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else personally but I sure have contempt for a large portion of my countrymen.

Fuck, that's harsh but soooooo true. Fat old white people at my ranges too. Most Americans dont even have a passport let alone travel to become educated. Most Americans speak 2 or less languages. Most Americans cant point out Turkey (a NATO member and holder of many US nukes) on a map let alone Kazakhstan.

Have you traveled a lot Brutus? It sounds like you have from your posts.

 

[Rockclimber]

We can put a missile up the ass of a mouse with a drone. Very little happens by accident... Hiroshima/nagasaki was unnecessary - we let them keep their emperor after decimating civilian populations even though that was the sticking point in negotiations that led to the bombing.

100% disagree with this post. The atomic bombings were the only way a million American servicemen didn't have to put their lives at risk. My grandfather included and probably yours too. The Japanese got what was coming to them.

 

[Rockclimber]

It's not collateral when civilians are specifically being targeted.

And you are saying if sanctions kill your family you blame the military and it is murder, but if sanctions kill people in another country it doesn't matter and it is not murder? Got it.

Well I hate to quote you again but there's just so much on this thread since I last logged on.
Technically, killing civilians just to kill civilians is Collateral Damage in both American and Europe. In World War II we firebombed every city in Germany to the ground. Basically nothing but civilians, women and children and when I look at combat deaths here they split combat deaths and civilian deaths into 2 distinct groups. Yes, the civilian deaths came from the firebombing but aren't listed as "combat" deaths. It is just Collateral Damage on paper.

 

[flenser]

100% disagree with this post. The atomic bombings were the only way a million American servicemen didn't have to put their lives at risk. My grandfather included and probably yours too. The Japanese got what was coming to them.

Oh, now it's a million. A couple of years ago the popular number was half a million. The official worse case estimate at the time was something like 43,000. How things inflate. Your whole premise has been so thoroughly debunked as to make it a jest every time it's repeated.

Virtually none of the top military leaders thought it would or did save American lives, and most were offended that it was used at all. They were quite vocal about it. You just don't get to hear those opinions in public school or on Fox/CNN.

 

[brutus79]

100% disagree with this post. The atomic bombings were the only way a million American servicemen didn't have to put their lives at risk. My grandfather included and probably yours too. The Japanese got what was coming to them.

How can you disagree with facts? Did you read a newspaper the week it happened and not hear another thing since you made this comment? Wow. Just, wow. You are basically disagreeing with gravity right now...

 

[brutus79]

Well I hate to quote you again but there's just so much on this thread since I last logged on.
Technically, killing civilians just to kill civilians is Collateral Damage in both American and Europe. In World War II we firebombed every city in Germany to the ground. Basically nothing but civilians, women and children and when I look at combat deaths here they split combat deaths and civilian deaths into 2 distinct groups. Yes, the civilian deaths came from the firebombing but aren't listed as "combat" deaths. It is just Collateral Damage on paper.

I was not using it in the sense of how the beaircratic arm of the military denotes deaths... using it to refute the sentiment of the word collateral which would denote them as accidental or ancillary. Civilians have been targets from the word go. Call the corpses what you want.

 

[brutus79]

Oh, now it's a million. A couple of years ago the popular number was half a million. The official worse case estimate at the time was something like 43,000. How things inflate. Your whole premise has been so thoroughly debunked as to make it a jest every time it's repeated.

Virtually none of the top military leaders thought it would or did save American lives, and most were offended that it was used at all. They were quite vocal about it. You just don't get to hear those opinions in public school or on Fox/CNN.

I just checked your age because I was sure it was a 76 year old taking this stance... you are fucking 38? I am appalled that you have so much information. At your disposal and choose to do nothing with it.

 

[FishnTom]

Oh, now it's a million. A couple of years ago the popular number was half a million. The official worse case estimate at the time was something like 43,000. How things inflate. Your whole premise has been so thoroughly debunked as to make it a jest every time it's repeated.

Virtually none of the top military leaders thought it would or did save American lives, and most were offended that it was used at all. They were quite vocal about it. You just don't get to hear those opinions in public school or on Fox/CNN.

General Macarthur believed in the atomic bombs so much he wanted to bomb North Korea with 50 of them and let South Korea take care of the problems they had instead of sending any U.S troops at all u can look and find his thoughts about it if u would have seen the carnage of WW1 AND WW2 you would understand that the bombing of any nation at war with us was the decision of them Japan we asked for surrender before dropping both bombs and were denied tell after the 2nd atomic bomb and Russia kicked them out of China after Japan surrendered to the U.S when u have a Army of 5 million men fighting on many fronts all over the world bombs are your best weapon bombing to submission first we firebombed whole city's to the ground for weeks and that didnt faze them so we used the atomic bomb and took out about 100 square miles and that was not the most devastating bombing 334 bombers napalmed Okinawa and killed 100,000 people

 

[brutus79]

General Macarthur believed in the atomic bombs so much he wanted to bomb North Korea with 50 of them and let South Korea take care of the problems they had instead of sending any U.S troops at all u can look and find his thoughts about it if u would have seen the carnage of WW1 AND WW2 you would understand that the bombing of any nation at war with us was the decision of them Japan we asked for surrender before dropping both bombs and were denied tell after the 2nd atomic bomb and Russia kicked them out of China after Japan surrendered to the U.S when u have a Army of 5 million men fighting on many fronts all over the world bombs are your best weapon bombing to submission first we firebombed whole city's to the ground for weeks and that didnt faze them so we used the atomic bomb and took out about 100 square miles and that was not the most devastating bombing 334 bombers napalmed Okinawa and killed 100,000 people

Did you get this as a prize out of a box of fox news cereal?

 

[FishnTom]

Did you get this as a prize out of a box of fox news cereal?

Nope those are facts

 

[Rockclimber]

Well I didnt pull a million out of my ass, RememberDuring World War II about 16,000,000 personnel served in the U.S. Military... around 11,200,000 in the Army, 4,200,000 in the Navy, and 660,000 in the Marine Corps. I think it's irresponsible to put millions of our service members lives at risk when you can just drop bombs. Even quoting 54,000 dead as a worst-case scenario reaffirms my point. Drop that fucker, twice.

 

[Rockclimber]

Some interesting facts I've learnt on this trip. General Patton refused to go into to the concentration camps because he said "he would be sick"
Officers said he seemed more concerned with saving the horses and keeping the SS troops in a separate prison so he could use them to fight the soviets later on. I've never read any of this in history books.
It is true that allied troops Marched German civilians through the camps to show them what happened however they took no precautions to prevent them from the typhus epidemic that was going on therefore typhus spread to German citizens afterwards lol

 

[flenser]

General Macarthur believed in the atomic bombs so much he wanted to bomb North Korea with 50 of them and let South Korea take care of the problems they had instead of sending any U.S troops at all u can look and find his thoughts about it if u would have seen the carnage of WW1 AND WW2 you would understand that the bombing of any nation at war with us was the decision of them Japan we asked for surrender before dropping both bombs and were denied tell after the 2nd atomic bomb and Russia kicked them out of China after Japan surrendered to the U.S when u have a Army of 5 million men fighting on many fronts all over the world bombs are your best weapon bombing to submission first we firebombed whole city's to the ground for weeks and that didnt faze them so we used the atomic bomb and took out about 100 square miles and that was not the most devastating bombing 334 bombers napalmed Okinawa and killed 100,000 people

Yes, there's always at least one. On the Korean war he said, "It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved south to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt.". He was such a wonderful caring individual.