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Yeah, I hope he takes his valuable time off on weekends and ships you your order. And make sure and ask every day about tracking geez
LOL- Don't worry discodon- you are fine- you will get your package soon- Relax and wait until at least Tuesday or Wednesday if you havent heard anything- Some people wait at least a week but you wont have to anyway- It will show soon enough
 
So what is HMG and where can I get it? I’ve wondered if HCG alone is sufficient PCT. from what I’ve read, it’s not. Any thoughts?

HMG need not be used unless you are trying to conceive a child, or you are attempting to get off TRT permanently/long-term (which generally is not a good idea) and restart your natural production. In general, HMG is used in the former. HMG used in conjunction to HCG in a specific dosing protocol is very effective in increasing your LH, FSH, and sperm count. There are several difference protocols, some being much more extreme than necessary IMO. Many men using AAS and/or on TRT for long periods of time have had great success at impregnating their spouse by following a HCG/HMG protocol timed around their partner's ovulation cycle.

You do not need HMG in a PCT, however I do not see it causing any harm other than lightening your wallet. There are at least 3 sources on this board that sell it. You can also get it on the Indian sites like ADC.

I personally believe it is beneficial for anyone on TRT to use 10,000-15,000 units of HCG at least once if not twice a year if you have plans of having kids later on or just want to help preserve some of your testicles structural integrity lol.

Cheers
 
HMG need not be used unless you are trying to conceive a child, or you are attempting to get off TRT permanently/long-term (which generally is not a good idea) and restart your natural production. In general, HMG is used in the former. HMG used in conjunction to HCG in a specific dosing protocol is very effective in increasing your LH, FSH, and sperm count. There are several difference protocols, some being much more extreme than necessary IMO. Many men using AAS and/or on TRT for long periods of time have had great success at impregnating their spouse by following a HCG/HMG protocol timed around their partner's ovulation cycle.

You do not need HMG in a PCT, however I do not see it causing any harm other than lightening your wallet. There are at least 3 sources on this board that sell it. You can also get it on the Indian sites like ADC.

I personally believe it is beneficial for anyone on TRT to use 10,000-15,000 units of HCG at least once if not twice a year if you have plans of having kids later on or just want to help preserve some of your testicles structural integrity lol.

Cheers
Thanks bro!
 
HMG need not be used unless you are trying to conceive a child, or you are attempting to get off TRT permanently/long-term (which generally is not a good idea) and restart your natural production. In general, HMG is used in the former. HMG used in conjunction to HCG in a specific dosing protocol is very effective in increasing your LH, FSH, and sperm count. There are several difference protocols, some being much more extreme than necessary IMO. Many men using AAS and/or on TRT for long periods of time have had great success at impregnating their spouse by following a HCG/HMG protocol timed around their partner's ovulation cycle.

You do not need HMG in a PCT, however I do not see it causing any harm other than lightening your wallet. There are at least 3 sources on this board that sell it. You can also get it on the Indian sites like ADC.

I personally believe it is beneficial for anyone on TRT to use 10,000-15,000 units of HCG at least once if not twice a year if you have plans of having kids later on or just want to help preserve some of your testicles structural integrity lol.

Cheers

So this one time shot is better than smaller doses consistently? Like after a year of trt and a recent cycle I started hcg 1.5 weeks ago, first few days did daily of like 250-300 then switched to 500 iu either every other day or 3x week since I read that higher range doses are better initially. Hopefully my balls didnt lose anymore sensitivity in the last year on top of the previous decade of opioids.
 
So I didnt try. inj superdrol but got caps from him and im 9 days in gotta say sdrl is no joke might be my fav oral now over adrol!back pumps like a mother though shit even standing hurts some times!
 
Is his gh in stock I’m trying to read the thread but im at work on a drilling rig and kinda hard to keep reading and working but only service I get on my phone is on the rig floor!!
 
Is his gh in stock I’m trying to read the thread but im at work on a drilling rig and kinda hard to keep reading and working but only service I get on my phone is on the rig floor!!

Currently out of the generics at the moment.

Waiting on the factory to resume production. Depending on how this situation plays out I might be done with the Meditropes for a little while. My supplier is sitting on about $10,000 in current orders and owes me another 3,000-4,000 for the bad kits he sent out. I don't like this shit. Taking money for stock he doesn't have on hand is fucking amateur hour.
 
So this one time shot is better than smaller doses consistently? Like after a year of trt and a recent cycle I started hcg 1.5 weeks ago, first few days did daily of like 250-300 then switched to 500 iu either every other day or 3x week since I read that higher range doses are better initially. Hopefully my balls didnt lose anymore sensitivity in the last year on top of the previous decade of opioids.

When on TRT your testicles will lose efficacy and size over time. It is 100% guaranteed. If someone has been on TRT or using steroids for a very long time, HCG and HMG can still bump your LH/FSH/sperm count/testosterone levels for awhile, and generally HCG/HMG will do a good enough job to allow you to conceive. However, after many years of TRT the likelihood of halting the use of testosterone and recovering to good natural levels are slim. It is just a trade-off we take. However, if someone is on TRT their natural production should already be poor to begin with. Using HCG (10-15k units twice a year) will most definitely help slow down the process of testicular atrophy though, which is why I do it.

I had a serious opioid addiction for years as well. I do not believe, from my understanding, that opioids cause testicular atrophy. Opioids simply reduce your testosterone levels when you are using them for long periods of time, but when opioid use is ceased, your levels should return over time.

Personally, I would not do 5,000 units in one shot. The most HCG I feel comfortable using is 2,500 units EOD. I think at 5,000 units in a day you could potentially cause damage to your leydig cells for no real additional benefits.

Many doctors seem to like putting guys on HCG FULL-TIME at 250-500iu per week. I do not really understand this. There are no solid peer-reviewed studies (that I know of) that support the use of HCG full-time at 250-500iu per week while on TRT. If one exists, please send it my way. It is just not enough HCG, IMO. Your HPTA is a feedback loop. If your pituitary and hypothalamus are sending a signal telling your testes to shut off and produce zero testosterone because you have exogenous testosterone being introduced weekly, then you will need a very strong opposing signal in order for your body to kick natural production back on. 250-500 units of HCG per week does NOT provide a strong enough signal to overpower the signal from 200mg of testosterone. That is a simple explanation.

You can dose your HCG in a thousand different ways. If I am going to use 15,000 units I will usually do something like this: 1,500iu EOD for two weeks, and then 750 units EOD for two weeks. Before doing this, I will also lower my TRT dose to 100mg/wk for 6 weeks or so to slightly lessen the shut-down signal strength from my pituitary to my testes. Lowering my testosterone like that is not a proven scientific action, it is just something I do based on anecdotal experience. Bryan Moskow, "The Guerrilla Chemist" has a similar HCG protocol that you could look into. It has the same idea; higher dosing for a week or two, and then successively reducing the dose every week until you stop.
 
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