I decided to start the 21 day alflutop cycle today. It is a European approved joint healer of some sort... @pumpingiron22 ran a log and said it really helped his knee. I got It from @pharmacist . Day 1 - pinned. Didn't die. Yet. I will keep everyone posted... I have shoulder issues in my right shoulder - mostly displaced pain from my rotator cuff that manifests itself above my bicep and below my tricep. My right knee has pain over the kneecap when I squat 400+ and my elbows are getting worn from all this arm work. Fingers crossed!